Saturday, November 26, 2005

Old bubbles back global warming theory

 
 Posted by Picasa There is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere today than at any point during the last 650,000 years, says a new study that let scientists peer back in time at greenhouse gases that can help fuel global warming.

By analyzing tiny air bubbles preserved in Antarctic ice for millennia, a team of European researchers shows how people are dramatically influencing the buildup of these gases.

The research promises to spur "dramatically improved understanding" of climate change, said geosciences specialist Edward Brook of Oregon State University.

The study, by the European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica, will be published today in the journal Science.

Scientists now directly measure levels of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, which accumulate in the atmosphere as a result of fuel-burning and other processes. Those gases help trap solar heat, like the greenhouses for which they are named, resulting in a gradual warming of the planet.

Those measurements are disturbing:

# The levels of carbon dioxide have climbed from 280 parts per million two centuries ago to 380 p.p.m. today.

# The Earth's average temperature, meanwhile, increased by about 1 degree Fahrenheit in recent decades, a relatively rapid rise.

Many climate specialists warn that continued warming could have severe impacts, such as rising sea levels and changing rainfall patterns.

Skeptics sometimes dismiss the rise in greenhouse gases as part of a naturally fluctuating cycle. The new study provides ever-more definitive evidence countering that view.

Deep Antarctic ice encases tiny air bubbles formed when snowflakes fell over hundreds of thousands of years.

Extracting the air allows a direct measurement of the atmosphere at past points in time, to find the naturally fluctuating range.

A previous ice-core sample had traced greenhouse gases back about 440,000 years. This new sample, from East Antarctica, goes 210,000 years further back in time.

Today's still rising level of carbon dioxide already is 27% higher than its peak during all those millennia, said lead researcher Thomas Stocker of the University of Bern in Switzerland."We are out of that natural range today," he said.

Moreover, that rise is occurring at a speed that "is over a factor of a hundred faster than anything we are seeing in the natural cycles," Stocker added. "It puts the present changes in context."

The team found similar results for methane, another greenhouse gas.

Researchers also compared the gas levels with the Antarctic temperature over that time period, covering eight cycles of alternating glacial or ice ages and warm periods.

They found a stable pattern: Lower levels of gases during cold periods and higher levels during warm periods.



The bottom line: "There's no natural condition that we know about in a really long time where the greenhouse gas levels were anywhere near what they are now. And these studies tell us that there's a strong relationship between temperature and greenhouse gases," said Oregon State's Brook. The article can be found at (Associated Press, as reported in the Detroit Free Press)

14 Comments:

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Is this a commentary to your other recent post on the same subject? Or is this another article written by somebody else?

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Blogger Minnesotan-with-a-view said...

Hi Paul,

I'm surprised you don't get a bigger online following for your Minnesota fame, but I guess Blogs are still new.

I saw this news a week ago and tonight finally found the CO2 data online (silly articles have no graphics!)

Here's my combined CO2 from ~4 sources: SEE LINK
http://static.flickr.com/12/69613802_b6fcf99980_o.gif

New data at:
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/icecore/antarctica/epica_domec/edc-co2-650k-390k.xls
Older data:
1. Mauna Loa: 1958-
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/sio-mlo.htm
2. Law Dome: 1006 A.D.-1978 A.D
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ftp/trends/co2/lawdome.combined.dat
3. Vostok ice core: 417,160 - 2,342 years BP
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.htm

I gave a speech on Atmospheric CO2 in April 2003, and glad to extend my data further back.

I don't know why the articles don't like graphics, but I think this is very informative.

We know before humans, the Pleistocne era (Last 1.6 million years) has been long glacial periods and short interglacial periods between (like last 8000-15,000 years or so).

We know that CO2 is higher than it's been in the last 650,000 years. We know that pre-human cycles offered a strong correlation between global temperature and atmospheric CO2 levels.

However we don't have a causal relation (Higher CO2 doesn't clearly lead global temperatures). Clear the VERTICAL rate of change of CO2 in the last 100 years is PROOF natural sinks can't keep up with us, but we still don't know what's going to happen in the future.

All we know is that AT SOME POINT CO2 will likely STOP rising in some point in the future, just like human population will stop rising, just like available fossil fuels to burn will stop being burned as we do now.

Well, I'm curious since you focus so much attention on this, what your views are. I hope you agree that higher CO2 doesn't necessarily demand higher average temperatures in the future and that our computer models are all limited.

Perhaps you've also seen "independent" groups (anti-global warming) disputing the arguments and so we have to keep on the ball on arguing what we know rather than jumping to conclusions we can't support.
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V8/N48/EDIT.jsp

I'm anonymous for my blog, but just so I can be a public fool and not worry...

Sincerely,
Minnesotan-with-a-view

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Blogger Kenneth Blumenfeld said...

Greetings Mr. Douglas, from a fellow Minnesotan and atmospheric scientist.

I am not at all solicitng visits to my rarely-updated blog.

Surely by now, you have discovered realclimate.org and also Roger Pielke Senior's "Climate Science" weblog. These are the two prime spots for scientific debate over the state of climate science and climate change. Both sites have 1-3 new posts per week, and often refer directly to the peer-reviewed literature. If you have not yet, I suggest you check them out.

Also, I can see the bots have gone to work on you; they comprise the majority of your comments. I know this blogging engine does have a filter, you might want to look into it.

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